San Francisco Chronicle's Debra Saunders talks with Dennis today about Obama's immigration pickle -- his deportation policy is actually working and so the White House has decided to clear "low priority cases."

Then, listen as Deb and Dennis get into 2012 and what went wrong for Tim Pawlenty in Iowa.

You can see Saunders's writings at SFGate.com and follow her on Twitter at @debrajsaunders.

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